The first call is automatic, something that VMWare even mention in their Knowledge Base , so it worked. Now I am happy sticking with the VM. Nevertheless, I am looking into upgrading my version of Windows online you could do this with Vista, but I haven't found the site for Win7 yet. Also, I might want to take the VM to another machine when I am making big bucks and can afford one. Apple wins hands-down on this one; they may have restrictions, but there are not a half-dozen different licenses and you don't have to call your "MS rep" I do not have one to get answers that are clearly contrary to the language of the license, and a dozen different opinions online I appreciate all of your input guys, I do, but it is clear that there are different opinions on this, and most of them seem to have something to back them up.
I guess I will ask in the MS forums. Thanks, Hap, that is very interesting. Thanks OC. I am not going to boot to Bootcamp again, because it will cause authentication hassles and I like having all my OS X stuff handy. I tried to download the VMWare Converter, which is supposed to convert a Bootcamp install into a VM file, but their download page isn't working.
I want to reclaim the space from the BC partition. It seems like Home, Professional and Ultimate users would all run afoul of this rule unless they had two licenses. Two licenses is what MS seems to want. Yeah, but it is different from what VMWare seems to be offering and explicitly tells you how to do in that link I posted.
It is also different from what my impression of what a lot of people are doing. Longer reply from me. Previous ones were sent from my iPhone at the airport at 5am There seems to be a lot of confusion here, hopefully this will clear things up. Specifically, Microsoft do not expect you to have to acquire two licenses in order to be able to use both Boot Camp and Fusion.
Only Starter and Basic prohibit installation inside a VM. Virtualisation rights are defined as follows: You are permitted to run a single instance of a virtual machine on the hardware to which the primary license is assigned. If you have a PC, for which you have a valid Windows 7 license - regardless of whether that license is OEM or retail - you can both boot the PC into Windows using the primary license, and leverage your virtualisation rights to create a Virtual Machine running on the same PC.
You may not use your virtualisation rights to run that same Windows 7 VM on a computer running, say, Vista. The virtualisation rights are not transferable across different computers. The VM must run on the computer to which the Windows license has been assigned. It is worth pointing out is that you can assign a license to a computer without it necessarily having Windows installed natively on its boot volume.
Even though the server does not natively boot into Windows, it is licensed, and as such inherits the unlimited Virtualisation rights of Windows Server.
This does not affect the Mac user any differently than the PC user. A Mac user, purchasing a copy of Windows 7, may install it into Boot Camp. They may also use that licence to run a single Virtual Machine running Windows 7 on the same computer to which the Windows 7 license has been assigned.
That means you can run a VM on your Mac. The key point is that in order to comply with the license, it must run on the same hardware that the main Windows license has been assigned to. It need not be virtualised within the operating system instance of the main Windows install.
There is no requirement to purchase two licenses in order to achieve both a Boot Camp and virtualised Windows instance on the same Mac. In summary: A Windows license permits you to create a VM on the same hardware to which the Windows license is assigned.
You can use that VM even if you are booted into another OS, so long as it is on the same hardware to which the license was assigned. You may not assign the license to one computer then run a VM on another computer unless that computer also has a valid Windows license. OEM licenses grant the same virtualisation rights as retail licenses, but an OEM license for a Mac would be valid only if Apple sold you the Windows license and the hardware as a bundle.
Since this will never happen, OEM copies of Windows are useless for the Mac user seeking to comply with the Windows licensing terms. I hope this settles some of the confusion on this issue. Oh one final point to address VMware Converter. The key word here is Converter. The idea is that it allows you to take a physical system and convert it into a Virtual Machine.
Generally, Windows licenses are transferrable between computers. The intention is that once the machine has been converted to a VM, the license is no longer assigned to the original physical system, and now resides solely within the VM. It is not intended to allow you to continue to use both the original physical system and the new, virtualised system. Your virtualisation rights do not come into effect here, for the reasons outlined above - i. As for the issue of whether you are entitled to transfer an OEM license to another system, I'll again refer you to MS's licensing team to answer that one.
I will say that in my experience they will permit you to transfer OEM licences of their server products to a Virtual Machine, but whether they generally permit this for OEM licences of the desktop operating system I cannot say for sure.
Thanks, this is a nice summary of the situation. I think there are certainly legal opportunities to run an OEM copy of Windows on a Mac under the "refurbisher" and "pre-installer" clauses of the license. According to Microsoft, they are violating the terms of the OEM System Builder license agreement, which says, in convoluted language, that you must install the software using the OEM Preinstallation Kit and then resell the PC to a third party.
These Microsoft Answers forums generally do a good job on technical questions. The OEM versions of Windows have been available to the general public for many, many years and have worked without problems. Other than this, they are the same OS. This is what I understood it to be, and what the person on the phone from Microsoft told me. As long as it's run as a VM on the same hardware it was originally installed on, and not at the same time though that's not really possible you're fine.
Well, it definitely is possible - if you install Windows on your PC or your Mac in Boot Camp then install VMware Workstation on Windows or Fusion on Mac and create a virtualised instance of Windows within it, you would be running both at the same time - and still be compliant with the license terms. This involved 2x smooth activation.
I sent them this email: Microsoft's reply the next morning: The Result: That simple and no arguments and the staff on the other end was very helpful. Hope this information will help others. A good summary but not quite right. Should that not put you at ease, sell it to a family member for a dollar. Exercise that option. You've now taken care of the contractual obligation to be a reseller. Ars Praefectus et Subscriptor.
Originally posted by topham: OEM copies are licensed with specific hardware. Originally posted by Ge0ph: Yes you are. Regarding number 2: you can move your OEM versions to another computer, you have to reauthorize it. It works. Martin Marconcini: That may be technologically possible, it's not valid according to Microsft: answers. However, it's known that some of those components may fail and have to be replaced thus causing Windows to fail auth.
If you wanted you could go to MS and request a refund for your "unused" Windows Copy. It's a gray area. All I'm saying is that technically you can authorize it again.
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Depending on how much RAM you have installed in your iMac and the type of Windows programs you plan on running, like standard Office programs not Graphic intense program like games and photo editing programs, you might be better off using a Virtual Machine software program so you can run both Windows and OS X at the same time. Of course that is just the way I feel about Dual Boot systems.
You always seem to need to go back to the other OS then back again into the other, Booting and rebooting. I have 16gb Ram and am planning of installing windows 7 or 8, i will be using graphic intesive programs, like games and editing programs, and for bootcamp, i dont really mind rebooting to change OS. Ok then. Go for it. Most online computer hardware resellers still have System Builder versions of Win 7 for sale so you can use one of those but the caveat is it will always be tied to that Mac hardware.
Mar 24, PM. More Less. Communities Get Support. Sign in Sign in Sign in corporate. Browse Search. Ask a question. Im dont know whether to get an upgrade, the OEM Version, or anything else. Thank you. Reply I have this question too 27 I have this question too Me too 27 Me too.
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